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El mesías de Dune

El mesías de Dune

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Summary

El mesías de Dune es la segunda entrega de la excepcional saga de Frank Herbert «Dune»， considerada la mejor serie de ciencia ficción de todos los tiempos。

Arrakis， también llamado Dune: un mundo desierto en pos del sueño de convertirse en un paraíso， cuna de mil guerras que se han extendido por todo el universo y de un anhelo mesiánico que intenta alcanzar el sueño más antiguo de la humanidad。。。

Paul Atreides: un personaje mítico， perturbado por la cercana presencia de una sombra dominante: su hermana Alia。 Y frente a ellos， los grandes intereses económicos， políticos y religiosos que sacuden los espacios interestelares: la CHOAM， la Cofradía espacial， el Landsraad， la Bene Gesserit。。。

Todo ello， y mucho más， conforma esta segunda entrega de «Dune»: un fresco impresionante y una obra cumbre de la imaginación。

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Reviews

El_Animado ，

La segunda entrega de Dune empieza muy bien， presentando a unos antagonistas con mucho potencial y una posible trama que parece ser muy interesante， sin embargo estos personajes irán perdiendo importancia y la trama si bien no es decepcionante en sí misma sí lo es respecto a la imagen inicial de la misma。En este libro el autor mantiene la forma de los capítulos que ya utilizó en el primero， es decir， cada uno es una escena bastante estática en las que suele ser más importante lo que algún person La segunda entrega de Dune empieza muy bien， presentando a unos antagonistas con mucho potencial y una posible trama que parece ser muy interesante， sin embargo estos personajes irán perdiendo importancia y la trama si bien no es decepcionante en sí misma sí lo es respecto a la imagen inicial de la misma。En este libro el autor mantiene la forma de los capítulos que ya utilizó en el primero， es decir， cada uno es una escena bastante estática en las que suele ser más importante lo que algún personaje averigua （y por tanto el lector） que lo que realmente sucede， estructura que funciona bastante bien， lo que es extraño siendo una novela de ciencia ficción épica。Como contra añadir que numerosos diálogos y reflexiones filosóficas de algunos personajes dejan bastante que desear， llegando a hacer que el lector pierda interés en algunos momentos de la lectura y que no simpatice con algunos personajes fundamentales。 。。。more

Rachel Ann Stephens ，

While Dune created the structure of the world， Dune Messiah now has the opportunity to play within it。 A half of the size of the first， this book continues its commentary on power， tradition， religion while still holding a gripping plot。 The story is not sidetracked by philosophical commentary or vice versa。 It strikes the balance that is difficult to achieve to （looking at you Alchemist）， and I’m excited for what the rest of the story will bring。

chad chrysanthemum ，

I really loved Dune and was excited when I found out recently that there are 17 sequels （yes， it seems like a lot to me too。 It seems that only 5 of those were written by Herbert， and the other 12 by his son？ I'm confused。）。 After reading Dune Messiah I might limit the sequels I read to just the one after this one and then call it a day。 I think that I liked Dune Messiah - sure， it's half the length of Dune and yet still feels twice as long， but it's definitely a really interesting story。 When a I really loved Dune and was excited when I found out recently that there are 17 sequels （yes， it seems like a lot to me too。 It seems that only 5 of those were written by Herbert， and the other 12 by his son？ I'm confused。）。 After reading Dune Messiah I might limit the sequels I read to just the one after this one and then call it a day。 I think that I liked Dune Messiah - sure， it's half the length of Dune and yet still feels twice as long， but it's definitely a really interesting story。 When a whole bunch of the main cast have oracular powers， it's immediately going to complicate the story， but I really liked the way that Dune Messiah explores determinism and to what extent people are a master of their own fate。 Paul spends most of the novel desperately trying to extricate himself from the terrible Jihad that he has wrought across the universe， but with full knowledge that anything he does will only serve to strengthen the cause。 Herbert hit the jackpot of cool ideas when Paul is blinded by atomics （apparently J-waves attack eye tissue？？ idk） but can still see using vision-memory of the future。 As we reach the climax of the novel， he becomes finally fully blind - by managing to divert his fate he has lost the certainty of the future and becomes blind。 Paul is also a vessel for an incredibly cool look at how being able to see the future affects your life; when Past and Future become one， how do you live in the present？ How do you reconcile the infinity of the universe and of different pathways with your finite existence？My main problem with Dune Messiah is that even after finishing the book I'm not sure what it's about。 Every single person is plotting against everyone else， plus most of them can see the future so they can all anticipate each other's moves。 A lot of 3D chess-playing ensues。 In addition， nobody ever directly says what they mean。 Every statement is wrapped up in 35 layers of sarcasm， misdirection， philosophical musings and ethical quandaries。 Every conversation read to me like a slew of non-sequiturs。 Despite all that， I can still see a lot of brilliant stuff。 As I mentioned in my last review， Herbert creates a world that still feels interesting and realistic， 50-odd years later。 The interplay of government and religion， laws and morality， as well as many， many warring factions makes this a really fascinating and interestingly constructed book。 I just wish it was maybe 25% less dense and also 100% longer so all of the weird ideas had time to properly marinade and come to fruition。 。。。more

Natodok ，

Great story; I love how it was given。 Good job writer！ If you have some great stories like this one， you can publish it on Novel Star， just submit your story to hardy@novelstar。top

John ，

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 Not at all like Dune and the least of the initial trilogy。 But we all knew that。Lots of people talk to each other。 Paul gets terribly angsty， goes blind and wanders off into the desert。 Alia gets horny。 Mum doesn't turn up until right at the end。 Duncan Idaho finds himself。 The Jihad， which was successful but we are now supposed to see as bad， and which Paul suggested might be bad all along， is over。 The kids are all right。 Well， until you get to the next book anyway。A deliberate and challenging Not at all like Dune and the least of the initial trilogy。 But we all knew that。Lots of people talk to each other。 Paul gets terribly angsty， goes blind and wanders off into the desert。 Alia gets horny。 Mum doesn't turn up until right at the end。 Duncan Idaho finds himself。 The Jihad， which was successful but we are now supposed to see as bad， and which Paul suggested might be bad all along， is over。 The kids are all right。 Well， until you get to the next book anyway。A deliberate and challenging course change。 。。。more

Gabriel ，

4。5*

Grace Walter ，

I know some people think this is the worst of the series， but I really enjoyed it。 I thought the collapse of the hero myth was fascinating， and it was just a quick， interesting read。 Still such a compelling world， although this book took a much narrower view into it。

James Sawyer ，

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 The original Dune book is no doubt better but this book tackles some really interesting concepts around politics and religion。 Complex dialogue and careful description of how different planets and races of humans can be manipulated or organised is something oddly relatable and rarely discussed in other fiction books （beside， perhaps， 1984 and brave new world）。The issue I had with dune messiah is that whilst I really enjoyed it I left the book with the same underwhelming feeling that I did after The original Dune book is no doubt better but this book tackles some really interesting concepts around politics and religion。 Complex dialogue and careful description of how different planets and races of humans can be manipulated or organised is something oddly relatable and rarely discussed in other fiction books （beside， perhaps， 1984 and brave new world）。The issue I had with dune messiah is that whilst I really enjoyed it I left the book with the same underwhelming feeling that I did after finishing the original Dune book。 I think Paul’s character is excellent but not enough is done to develop the characters around him。 Part of what I love （the detailed description of political systems and time）， also leave less room for character development， say of Duncan Idaho， who could have had more struggles and interesting interactions with Alia and Bijazz。 On top of this， Paul’s death was hugely significant not only in the manner with which he died （in the Fremen way， reaffirming their allegiance to his sister who remains） but the death of a main character also offers closure to the reader。 I felt that it was too abrupt and anticlimactic。Similarly to the first book， Herbert skips out periods of time where there is huge character development。 On reflection， the ending was poetic and the book itself is a really interesting and what would seem natural development from the first book， an Emperor seizes power and creates the greatest empire in the universe only to struggle to handle his creation。I would have liked more scheming and understanding of the motives of those scheming but the exchanges were well done。 Would have liked another 150 pages。 。。。more

Barbara ，

Thankfully the book is short。 It is meant as a bridge between Dune and Children of Dune。 There is a considerable time gap between Dune and Dune Messiah。 Many things are hinted at in what happened during the years we last left our familiar characters - hinted， not explained， which can lead to some frustration。From the very beginning， we learn there is a conspiracy。 Yet we have little to no clue of what the conspiracy is， what truly motivates those characters， or how they feel about what they are Thankfully the book is short。 It is meant as a bridge between Dune and Children of Dune。 There is a considerable time gap between Dune and Dune Messiah。 Many things are hinted at in what happened during the years we last left our familiar characters - hinted， not explained， which can lead to some frustration。From the very beginning， we learn there is a conspiracy。 Yet we have little to no clue of what the conspiracy is， what truly motivates those characters， or how they feel about what they are planning。Then， for at least 3/4 of the book， this theme is mostly forgotten and we dwell into long introspections of the main characters。 During the last 1/4 of the book， there is an acceleration， and a lot of action going on， to which the reader is not fully privy and much of it is swept away by one sentence。 This is not a book I will think back on。 I must admit， at one point while reading， I thought I had lost time and skipped a few paragraphs， or that my eReader had had a problem， as I was genuinely bored。I do not know if this second book is required to understand Children of Dune。 Perhaps I missed some crucial action while falling asleep。。。？Contrary to Dune， I do not plan to re-read Dune Messiah。 。。。more

Ju oluz ，

I enjoyed this one a bit more than the first one because of politics and plots。

Justine ，

4。5 starsIt's hard to write a second book as good as the first one when the first one is Dune。 Dune Messiah is not better than the first volume， but it is up to it。The reader is back on Arrakis with the characters that survived the first book。 The opening scene takes place twelve years after the end of the prequel: I was a bit taken aback by this， but I understood it after I really got into the story。 It builds up the consequences of what happened at the end of Dune: （view spoiler）[Paul was 4。5 starsIt's hard to write a second book as good as the first one when the first one is Dune。 Dune Messiah is not better than the first volume， but it is up to it。The reader is back on Arrakis with the characters that survived the first book。 The opening scene takes place twelve years after the end of the prequel: I was a bit taken aback by this， but I understood it after I really got into the story。 It builds up the consequences of what happened at the end of Dune: （view spoiler）[Paul was already drifting， he was already different from before the coup。 And， of course， he would self-destroy。 （hide spoiler）] We don't really learn more about the Jihad because it's a given fact for the characters; we just get to see where things are now and we glimpse information in some dialogues。 I loved that there were references to our world， with （view spoiler）[mentions of Genghis Khan and Hitler with which Paul compares himself。 The number of people killed in his Jihad is awfully unimaginable。 （hide spoiler）] We are reminded that Paul didn't want the Jihad to happen but that he knew it was unavoidable。 We get to see the way it works， the way it develops and the way Paul can't control it。 I loved that aspect of the book: the reader gets a look "behind the scenes" of a fanatic movement， how it builds itself up around a man it considers superhuman/a messiah/even， maybe， a god。 Paradoxically， Paul has never been more human than in this book。 The reader witnesses a kind of downfall: （view spoiler）[Paul is unable to live in the present because he is obsessed and afraid about the future he sees。 His actions are made according to what he believes will happen and he can't enjoy the time he has with， for instance， Chani， whom he saw dying in the near future giving birth to their child。 He knows that there are flaws in these visions and he tries to play with them to avoid what he saw， but he's still surprised by some of the events in this book！ （hide spoiler）] He moved me numerous times。Concerning Arrakis and the Fremen， the situation has changed in twelve years。 The planet is being terraformed according to Kynes' plans; water can be found and Fremen， even if they are still attached to their traditions， lead a different life from the one we discovered in Dune。 Traditions that lead to （view spoiler）[Paul being betrayed by some of the Fremen AND to Paul's death at the end of the book！！ （hide spoiler）]Concerning the Imperium， plots are still being hatched and the book opens with scenes that don't take place on Dune with characters that are conspiring against Paul。 I had a hard time with this opening because I wanted to get back to the characters I knew and to jump back into their story。 Both the writing-style and the spiritual aspect of the first volume are still in Dune Messiah: some sentences， though sometimes simple， were charged with meaning and/or emotion。 The spirituality of the book doesn't rest on the Jihad or Paul being considered the Messiah; these seem like facades hiding something deeper， something real that the reader feels。 Finally， I thought this book more moving than the first one， probably because Paul is， as I said， more human in here。 （view spoiler）[He loses Chani and then decides to die in the desert。 Even though it serves his purpose - he'll be considered a god now， living in the desert， being one with the desert， representing all of Dune and not just a man governing it -， it's still moving to read about his decision and to have the remaining characters' point of view about it。 I was glad to get Duncan back， I loved the entire subplot about him， the fact that he was struggling between the ghola he is and the man he was。 To get his point of view in the end， remembering that Paul was a kind of son for him， was quite hard。 Harder still Alia's reaction。 I really love her: she is an adult in the mind of a child。 Double， she is considered a saint and a demon， a virgin-harlot: this bothered me but it's exactly what happened to female figures in mythologies and History。 A woman this powerful cannot go unscathed in a man's world。 The fact that the Bene Gesserit rejects her even though she is part of it means that Alia is all alone: no one is like her， even Paul。 And now that he is dead， she is truly alone。 These two characters were probably my favorites because of their double nature。 The romance between them didn't bother me despite the age difference。 Moreover， I loved that Alia is both a mind and a body: her mind is old and powerful; her body is young and awakening。 I loved that she felt it， that she lived some kind of "puberty"。 This makes her more human: she'll still live a mortal human life despite her abilities。 I didn't feel any shame associated with that in the book - even if Alia denies her cravings for a moment -， that was great！ （hide spoiler）]So， a great sequel that moved me and made me want to keep reading the series！ 。。。more

Alec Coleman ，

Didn't fully comprehend what was happening half the time。 Much less action-packed than Dune。 Wouldn't recommend。 Didn't fully comprehend what was happening half the time。 Much less action-packed than Dune。 Wouldn't recommend。 。。。more

Summer ，

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 This book got me very excited for the next four。。。 rest in worm mr Maud’dib

Sergio Rico ，

It's a huge contrast to book #1。 It gets into what most other stories never do， the consequences of the hero's greatness。 They are murky and uncomfortable。。。 It's a huge contrast to book #1。 It gets into what most other stories never do， the consequences of the hero's greatness。 They are murky and uncomfortable。。。 。。。more

Megan Watson ，

The epic story continues as we see what Paul and his followers have managed to change in the Imperium。

holden ，

3，5/5 Iako intrigantna， filozofska i prepuna originalnih premisa， ova knjiga mi je slabija od prve jer postoji previše toga što želi da kaže， a broj stranica je u tome sputava。 Međutim， jako se radujem daljem čitanju nastavaka， i razvijanju priče vezane za glavne likove ovog serijala。

Nicolas Lebrun ，

Aussi bon si c'est pas meilleur que le premier！ Aussi bon si c'est pas meilleur que le premier！ 。。。more

Jeremy Laroche ，

Is it bad that I liked this more than the first one？ I respect the grand CONCEPTS of the first original Dune book more， but I feel the shorter length of Messiah helped with the execution of a story that's more cohesive and personal。 Is it bad that I liked this more than the first one？ I respect the grand CONCEPTS of the first original Dune book more， but I feel the shorter length of Messiah helped with the execution of a story that's more cohesive and personal。 。。。more

Gülcan ，

Hem mükemmel bir seriye başlamanın mutluluğunu hem de bu serinin eninde sonunda bitecek olmasının hüznünü yaşıyorum。

Kübra ，

İlk kitaba göre tabi ki daha düşük tempoda bir roman ama yine devamında merak ettiren türk dizisi gibi bitti。 O yüzden devamke

VINH BINH ，

I told myself I would stop after the 4th in this series， but this book has drawn the line for me。 Too long， too tedious， too much thinking， too much philosophy。 Half of the book was Paul pondering about his inevitable jihad。 I feel like reading Twilight all over again。 Sorry to say this but this second book just ruined everything the first book built。 All the wonders have gone。

R。K。 King ，

I absolutely love the first Dune book。 IMO it's the greatest Sci fi book ever written。 I hadn't read the sequels in forever though， so thought I'd go for a reread。Disappointed。 That's the one word I'd use for the immediate follow-up to Dune， Dune: Messiah。As the second book in the Dune saga by Frank Herbert， Messiah unfortunately doesn't really measure up。 It basically just acts as the fallout events to come after the first book， which yes a sequel should do， but it does nothing else to keep tha I absolutely love the first Dune book。 IMO it's the greatest Sci fi book ever written。 I hadn't read the sequels in forever though， so thought I'd go for a reread。Disappointed。 That's the one word I'd use for the immediate follow-up to Dune， Dune: Messiah。As the second book in the Dune saga by Frank Herbert， Messiah unfortunately doesn't really measure up。 It basically just acts as the fallout events to come after the first book， which yes a sequel should do， but it does nothing else to keep that story going， and in fact leaves a somewhat irksome ending。I'm basically saying that Messiah has the build up， but little in the way of payoff。 Perhaps it's just setting the scene for the next book and the children？ It's been so long I forget the direction it goes， but I'll find out soon enough。 For the moment I'll treat Messiah as a small stepping stone between Dune and Children Of Dune。Join the RK King readers' list for an exclusive FREE short story， plus inside info， musings， promos and more: RK King Writes 。。。more

Katie Olkowski ，

Was obsessed with reading this book after the first。 It flows so well from the first book it could've been included。 Love the cultural， political， and religious conversations in this story that help build a fantastic sci-fi story。 Was obsessed with reading this book after the first。 It flows so well from the first book it could've been included。 Love the cultural， political， and religious conversations in this story that help build a fantastic sci-fi story。 。。。more

Paul Harmon ，

Oh My Heart。

Parth Vargiya ，

Dune messiah is one of the most misunderstood books I have came across 。 If you go into it expecting dune you will be disappointed 。 It explains very little about much clever plot which grasps you till the end 。 Dune messiah is what i didn't know i would like to read 。 Dune messiah is one of the most misunderstood books I have came across 。 If you go into it expecting dune you will be disappointed 。 It explains very little about much clever plot which grasps you till the end 。 Dune messiah is what i didn't know i would like to read 。 。。。more

Aditya Mandhane ，

Much more of a slow burn than the original， but just as engaging。

Jim ，

At least a 3。5， but damn GR and their full-stars-only rating system！！！ My rating may move while I write this review。 It has happened before。A completely different book from 'Dune'， which made it harder to become truly involved as a reader for quite the page-count。 But the writing is stellar and extremely intelligent and amazingly thought-provoking， so once I settled into the rhythms of the tale I found it hard t put aside。 Politics and religion， in reality a theocracy of sorts， exists for Muad'D At least a 3。5， but damn GR and their full-stars-only rating system！！！ My rating may move while I write this review。 It has happened before。A completely different book from 'Dune'， which made it harder to become truly involved as a reader for quite the page-count。 But the writing is stellar and extremely intelligent and amazingly thought-provoking， so once I settled into the rhythms of the tale I found it hard t put aside。 Politics and religion， in reality a theocracy of sorts， exists for Muad'Dib and the people of the jihad。 We get just what one would expect， interweaving and overlaying the two structures。 A continuum of believers， acolytes， followers， enemies， doubters， bookended by Paul/Alia and his enemies， of which there are many and always shifting in allegiance and scheme。 Hardly any action here， and what does happen is mostly off the page and referred to by those involved or absent via deep discussions and emotional diatribes。 'Dune Messiah' is a more thoughtful novel than 'Dune'， not that the latter is void of conceptual complexity， but its action-oriented narrative left less time for contemplation and consideration。 This book is a long essay on meaning， idea， belief， honor， love， and ultimately who can see the future。 I think Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle was mentioned in 'Dune'， but it seems more apt as the theme running through 'Dune Messiah'， and we are left with just as many questions as answers by the close of the book。 Ultimately a cerebral fantasy tale， most assuredly worthy of further contemplation。 。。。more

Roland Grasser ，

Though it may not be the Dune sequel one might expect， it grows nothing short in aptness。 A lordly yet honest sequel to a hero made messiah。

Karen Masters ，

The first Dune book is one of my favourites。 This one， to me， feels like it’s trying too hard to be epic and significant。 It feels forced and I don’t enjoy it。 Although I do like the ending。

Jordan ，

I must have been in a much better place this time。 This first time I read this book it left me disconcerted。 The Mua'dib of of this sequel was much changed from the insightful avenger from the first。 However， this time around， I see the utility and purpose of this story， I see the value of the changes in Paul， Alia， and Arrakis。 If you've read the first， the greatest scifi book ever written （in my humble opinion）， then I recommend that you continue the journey。 I must have been in a much better place this time。 This first time I read this book it left me disconcerted。 The Mua'dib of of this sequel was much changed from the insightful avenger from the first。 However， this time around， I see the utility and purpose of this story， I see the value of the changes in Paul， Alia， and Arrakis。 If you've read the first， the greatest scifi book ever written （in my humble opinion）， then I recommend that you continue the journey。 。。。more

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